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July 23, 2008
In short, the following link should clear up any misconceptions about where Barnes stands on this issue. Barnes’ Position on the California Lead Ban. You are welcome to post your comments here.
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March 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
I had heard a rumor that Barnes was some how involved in pushing for or supporting a lead ban. I always thought it couldn’t be true and that it was just what it was, a rumor, a vicious one at that. Someones attempt to discredit the company. Thanks so much for clearing this up. I’ve had GREAT success using your bullets especially the Triple Shocks.
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I am against the California Lead Ban. The actual death of one Condor from an excessive lead content and pointing the finger at hunters is totally erroneous. Where are the tests to prove it was bullet lead and not from the natural ecology of their landscape. Lead is a natural element of nature and to put the entire blame on Hunters & Sportsman isn’t the way of the “Land of the Free”
Now that all Hunters and Sportsman have to suffer with this new legislation, I just hope that all Bullet Manufacturers will step forward and introduce new calibers of projectiles such as .17 cal.
The new Remington .17 Fireball is just one of many that now has a permanent place in the Gun Safe as it is no longer legal to hunt with this caliber.
I thank Barnes Bullets for being in the forefront of non-lead projectiles and I only hope Barnes Bullets and other bullet companies continue to work to supply California with a full range of calibers of copper projectiles for all calibers of centerfire.
Thank you Barnes Bullets.
Bruce J. Leininger
Retired Deputy Sheriff & Avid Squirrel Hunter
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Another ban? What else will California ban? How ’bout the air we breathe? Let us be adult enough to make our own decisions about the products we buy, not legislated by government. Really wanna ban something? How about cigarettes. Too much lobby money in that. Let us live in the country I grew up to love . Free. Thats what I want for my kids and grandkids. California has manipulated our fuel prices, compromised school funds and has been duped by an energy crisis created by major corporations at taxpayer expense. Keep it up and they’ll drive everyone out. When we leave so do your tax dollars. Drop the ban on lead.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am
Hi folks,
I’ve lived in California all my life (46 yrs) and believe me the lead ban has nothing to do with Barnes and everything to do with rabid anti hunting interests in this state. A new attempt on hunting and gun ownership comes up almost daily. We’ll keep fighting but it’s difficult with the liberal majority running the State. Groups like the NRA and SCI are valuable and necessary please support them or others like them to help protect our rights.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
The “left coast” has ALWAYS had hunting/shooting “issues! With that said…I’m far more interested in when the excellent MRX will be offered in .375,.416 and .458 ???!!!
May 13th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Conservation minded land owners such as Ted Turner at the Vermejo Park Ranch in Northern New Mexico, are also asking hunters not to use lead bullets in their hunts. I just received the notice for a hunt there this season.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
first, the legislature bans lead for big game hunting.
then in a perfect example of the 4th branch of government (the administrative state) the dept. of foolishness and games decides that it should also apply to rimfires and varmiting.
i wonder when the deal was struck that even if the law didn’t apply to rimfire, it would
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Incredibly large amounts of lead were released into the environment by mining operations (Silver Valley, CDA,Idaho area) and exposure of naturally occuring lead ore deposits (lead is mined). To pick on hunters with their tiny bullets is a disproportionate effort aimed at the shooting sports and hunting. Who saw that bird eat the dead creature having a lead bullet embedded in it? Was lead found in the dead birds gut?
There are other elements that are much more dense than lead, but one of these elements, less toxic than lead, commonly used by industry for weights and projectiles, would really make the greens gag. When silver prices reach a certain level mining for silver will resume accompanied by the lead by-product and this lead release into the environment will dwarf the tiny lead contamination from occasional lead fragments in deer or elk gut piles.
Copper, used in your deadly bullets, due to its physical properties is much better for bullets than silver which is slightly heavier. Silver bullets would have one application that not even the mighty triple shock copper bullet could equal.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:06 am
I live and hunt in Cal and don’t mind the ban on lead its not just the Condors but all the things that eat the guts or unrecovered game. Since I tryed some that I loaded and they shot so good I like them.
July 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I’ve instructed family and friends that should I die they should shoot me with lead from shotgun shells and then deposit my body in some area where a conder may find it. I say this in jest, but it does express a strong sentiment.
SWF
July 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I attend the Dept. of Fish and Game commissioners meetings in my home county here in Calif. They had tried to draft a letter to get a sunset clause for the lead ban. It would have suggested that if in five years ther was no significant findings the ban would expire. Well they did not have enough commissioners to form a binding vote. Even had they sent a letter that does not mean their thoughts would have been taken seriousley.
July 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
First off, let me say I’ve been a hunter for well over 40 years and still am: elk, mulies, whitetails, antelope, and anything else I can get a tag for.
I also like eagles, vultures, and other raptors. And yes, the scientific evidence is CONCLUSIVE. Most birds are very sensitive to lead poisoning. Birds that feed on carcasses of critters killed with lead bullets often ingest enough lead to sicken and even kill them.
As any experienced hunter knows, jacketed lead hunting bullets often fragment. For example, most jacketed lead bullets I’ve recovered from elk over the years retained just 50% to 65% of their initial weight. Guess where all the rest of the lead went?
This is similar to the ban on leadshot for waterfowl. Ducks, geese, etc would pick up enough lead from river/lake sediments in heavily hunted areas to poison them. [BTW, lead is not to good for you, me, and our children who eat game meat, either.]
For this reason, I have switched to copper bullets for hunting. If you still shoot lead bullets, then you must take responsibility for the “by kill.”